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firm ultimatum, with specific deadlines, and he reasserted israel's moral right to launch a preemptive strike. but in recent months, a chorus of israeli intelligence and military officials has been taking the unheard-of step of publicly criticizing the prime minister for not showing more restraint. it started with meir dagan, the former chief of the mossad, israel's equivalent of the c.i.a. dagan headed the mossad for nearly a decade, until last year. his primary, if not his only, mission was to prevent iran from developing a nuclear bomb. as he told us in march, he thinks a strike now would be a grave mistake; that israel could wait as long as three years. you have said publicly that bombing iran now is the stupidest idea you've ever heard. that's a direct quote. >> meir dagan: an attack on iran
before you are exploring all other approaches is not the right way how to do it. >> stahl: the dispute seems to come down, though, to whether you are at the end of everything that you can try, or whether you have a lot of time left to try other things, which seems to be your position. >> dagan: i never said it's a lot of time, but i think that... >> stahl: well, more time. >> dagan: more time. >> stahl: for nearly a decade, buying more time was his job. the iranians say dagan dispatched assassins, faulty equipment, and computer viruses to sabotage their nuclear program. all the while, he was poring over the most secret dossiers about the iranian regime, gaining insights and a surprising appreciation. >> dagan: the regime in iran is a very rational regime. >> stahl: do you think ahmadinejad is rational? >> dagan: the answer is yes. not exactly our rational, but i think that he is rational.
>> stahl: do you think they're rational enough that they are capable of backing down from this? >> dagan: no doubt that the iranian regime is maybe not exactly rational, based on what i call "western thinking," but no doubt that they are considering all the implications of their actions. >> stahl: other people think they're not going to really stop till they have this capability. >> dagan: they will have to pay dearly and all the consequences for it. and i think the iranians, in this point in time, are going very careful in the project. they are not running in it. >> stahl: if they're that rational, as you suggest, and that logical, then why can't you-- israel-- and the world live with a nuclear iran? >> dagan: in the israeli case, they have said that they want to destroy israel. >> stahl: he says one sign of iran's logical thinking is how
they cunningly stall through diplomacy. >> dagan: i think that the iranians are masters at negotiation. they invented what i call the "bazaar culture" of how we are negotiating. >> stahl: so if there are negotiations, how concerned would you be that the europeans, for example, would say, "ah, we're talking; let's weaken the sanctions"? >> dagan: i have to admit that that's a concern, yes. >> stahl: people are going to want to lessen the tensions so that the oil prices will go back down. >> dagan: do you think that iran armed with a nuclear capability is going to create stability in the region? >> stahl: dagan says the best solution is to push the mullahs out by supporting iranian students and minorities. according to a leaked state department cable, he told his american counterparts, as early as 2007, more should be done to foment regime change. >> dagan: it's our duty to help
anyone who likes to present an open opposition against their regime in iran. >> stahl: has israel done anything to encourage, help, support the youth opposition groups that have been marching against the regime? >> dagan: let's ignore the question. >> stahl: ( laughs ) dagan argues that a pre-emptive israeli strike this year would be reckless and irresponsible. the obama administration agrees that there's time to wait. >> president barack obama: already, there's too much loose talk of war. >> dagan: i heard very carefully what president obama said. and he said openly that the military option is on the table, and he is not going to let iran become a nuclear state. >> stahl: so let me try to sum up what i think you're now saying-- you're saying, "why should we do it? if we wait and they get the bomb, the americans will do it." >> dagan: the issue of iran armed with a nuclear capability
is not an israeli problem; it's an international problem. >> stahl: so wait and let us do it. >> dagan: if i prefer that somebody will do it, i always prefer that americans will do it. >> stahl: in his memoir, former vice-president dick cheney says that, in 2007, dagan came to washington with intel to make the case for bombing the syrian nuclear reactor that israel later took out in a surprise attack. syria did not retaliate. this time, dagan thinks it'll be different. he worries about a rain of missiles, which some estimate could be as many as 50,000. >> dagan: we are going to ignite, at least from my point of view, a regional war. and wars-- you know how you start; you never know how you are ending it. >> stahl: we went outside and looked out from his balcony at the bright lights of the very prosperous modern city of tel aviv. if israel does strike iran, the
retaliation would probably take place right here. hezbollah could come from the north, hamas could fire from the south. >> dagan: it will be a devastating impact on our ability to continue with our daily life. i think that israel will be in a very serious situation for quite a time. >> stahl: dagan's other concern is that a bombing attack would not be effective. it's been widely reported that there are four main heavily fortified nuclear facilities dispersed across iran. he says it's more complicated than that. >> dagan: there are dozens of sites. >> stahl: dozens? >> dagan: dozens. >> stahl: not four? >> dagan: not four. >> stahl: so if israel were to go and have their strike, they'd have to have a dozen hits? >> dagan: you'll have to deal with a large number of targets. >> stahl: here's something that i saw that you said-- you said, "there's no military attack that can halt the iranian nuclear project. it could only delay it."
>> dagan: yes, i agree. >> stahl: it's ironic that the man arguing that israel show restraint built his reputation on brute force. dagan is legendary in israel, with a 44-year resume as an effective killing machine. before mossad, he ran undercover hit squads, executing p.l.o. operatives in gaza, then shiite militias in southern lebanon. former prime minister ariel sharon used to say dagan's expertise was "separating an arab from his head." >> dagan: i never, ever killed nobody or we were engaged in killing somebody who was unarmed. >> stahl: here are some of the things that have been said and written about you-- "hard charging." "stop at nothing." somebody who "eats arabs for breakfast." >> dagan: i am not responsible for what you are describing. >> stahl: but have you killed a lot of people? >> dagan: unfortunately, i was
involved in some engagements that people were killed. >> stahl: any with your bare hands? >> dagan: never. i know the stories. it's simply not true. look, there is no pleasure in killing. there's no joy in killing people. >> stahl: sitting in his apartment, we were surprised that the walls were covered with pictures that he himself had painted. i see a lot of humanity in your paintings, and i see paintings of arabs. >> dagan: i know it would sound anti-semitic if i said that some of my best friends are arabs, but i truly, really admire some of the qualities of arabs. >> stahl: his portrait is complex-- he led a life of violence, but is a vegetarian. and in the background lies a haunting memory-- this is a photograph of his grandfather moments before he was executed by the nazis. dagan would show it to his mossad operatives before sending
them off on missions. it's a very sad picture. and that's propelled you? >> dagan: i think that should propel everyone in this country. >> stahl: when the iranians, when ahmadinejad talks about wiping israel away, this is what you're thinking? >> dagan: no doubt that i have to take into consideration a scenario that a majority of israelis are going to be killed if they're going to use a nuclear capability against israel. >> stahl: he came to mossad with the holocaust motto of "never again" on his mind. soon after, iranian cargo planes started falling from the sky, nuclear labs were catching fire, centrifuges were malfunctioning. and then, one by one, iranian nuclear scientists started disappearing and getting killed, blown up by shadowy men on motorcycles. but no matter how hard we tried, whenever we asked about any of this, he stonewalled.
>> dagan: i'm not going to discuss anything about this issue. >> stahl: okay, but that's pretty well known. >> dagan: nice try. >> stahl: "nice try." that must kill you not to take credit for it. i mean, even in the arab world, do you know what they call you? they call you "superman." >> dagan: i don't have my costume. >> stahl: in "superman's" time, mossad was credited with a string of daring, exquisitely executed covert missions and assassinations, from damascus to sudan. but glory turned to scorn at a dubai hotel in 2010 during an operation to kill a top arms courier for hamas. what the 27 mossad agents didn't know was that the hotel was full of security cameras, and while they succeeded in the assassination, the whole world got to watch their comings and goings, including the two agents who conspicuously hung around the elevator in their tennis
shorts. pictures of the "secret agents" were on front pages around the world. this was considered kind of a disaster for the mossad. >> dagan: i never heard that any israeli was arrested. >> stahl: no, but the chief of police in dubai called for your arrest. he challenged you to "be a man and take responsibility." >> dagan: what do they want, that i really would take seriously what the chief of police of dubai is saying? >> stahl: i wonder if it is the reason that you are no longer at the mossad; that it was seen as such a botched operation, that that basically ended your career. >> dagan: first of all, not true. i was requesting the prime minister to leave my office. after more than eight years, i believe it's enough. >> stahl: dagan says he retired, but it's widely believed in israel that netanyahu refused to renew his term, and that's one
reason dagan has broken the mossad code of silence to criticize the prime minister's stand on iran. this is payback. >> dagan: payback? it's not even serious that i will reply. i have really the great admiration for the prime minister benjamin netanyahu and defense minister barak. i'm not sharing their point of view, but it's not a payback. i don't see it as a personal issue. >> stahl: i've heard of talk that people want to put you on trial. they think what you're doing is treasonous. >> dagan: let them put me on trial. i'll be very happy to go on trial. it'll be fun. >> stahl: but we wondered if he had any regrets about not completing his mission at the mossad. so you were dealing with the possibility of iran getting a bomb for eight years. >> dagan: more than eight years. >> stahl: more than eight. did you fail? >> dagan: i could tell you one thing-- when i ended my role in
mossad, they still didn't have a bomb. >> stahl: so now, the spymaster who spent his entire career in the shadows is out in the open as a public figure and a businessman. so, you travel? you travel all the time? >> dagan: a lot, yes. >> stahl: do you travel freely? do you use your own passport with your name on it? >> dagan: yes. >> stahl: do you ever look over your shoulder? >> dagan: never. >> stahl: you don't think there's a target on you? do you think you're recognized? >> dagan: i'm assuming, theoretically, that there are a few groups of people around this world who will be happy to see me perish. but i'm not going to provide them the pleasure of doing so. >> . >> glor: good evening. the price of oil jumped last week as a result of turmoil in the middle east. gas price followed up four cents
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>> pelley: while nfl players have to be ferocious on the field, off the field, their agents have to be just as tough. agents go toe to toe with the teams, negotiating their players' contracts. the most memorable agent of all time was a movie character, jerry maguire. but the stuff that that character was made of was largely based on the super-agent drew rosenhaus. there are almost 1,000 agents in the nfl, but no one represents more players than rosenhaus, an agent who is, at the same time, revered, feared and hated.
and as we first reported last fall, to hear him tell it, he just may be the most important player in all of pro football. >> drew rosenhaus: i really believe that the nfl would fall apart without me. that may sound cocky, that may sound arrogant, but i'm telling you the truth. >> pelley: cocky and arrogant, you? ( laughter ) so, why would the nfl fall apart without drew rosenhaus? >> rosenhaus: in the nfl, we keep things moving smoothly. when it breaks down between the team and the player, the agent is there to pick up those pieces. if a guy says "i want to be traded. i hate this team, i hate this coach." i say to the player, "tell me, don't tell the coach. i don't want you to ruin your relationship with the team. come to me." >> pelley: let me let the audience in on something here. people watching this interview right now are thinking, "rosenhaus is turning this on for the camera. he's leaning forward and raising his voice and shouting because he knows he's on tv." you and i, earlier today, were in your office, and you were
shouting at me just this way before the cameras were rolling. >> rosenhaus: scott, i don't see the shouting. >> pelley: this is the real deal. >> rosenhaus: you know, this is just enthusiasm. >> pelley: this isn't shouting? >> rosenhaus: no, i think i'm just talking to you. i didn't... am i loud? >> pelley: no, i... ( laughs ) >> rosenhaus: sorry, guys. let's turn down the mic. >> pelley: he doesn't drink coffee. imagine what he'd be like on caffeine. >> rosenhaus: come on! >> pelley: no alcohol, either, but he is a work-aholic. >> rosenhaus: real good job today, buddy. i guess you're not going to fire me. we'll be able to get you even more money. try and be available tomorrow. trust me! i live it, eat it, sleep it. every single minute of the day, i think about my work. i love it. it's my passion. i enjoy it. so it's not like a job, it's just... it's fun. >> pelley: his clients include ferocious defender jason pierre- paul, star running back frank gore... >> touchdown! >> pelley: ...and two of the league's fastest rising future superstars-- tight end rob gronkowski and explosive running back lesean mccoy.
he works out with his players during the day, parties with them at night. and he is always, always on call. >> rosenhaus: if i get a call in the middle of the night, i have to take it. if i'm with a girl, i have to take it. if i'm in the shower, i have to take it. my clients are like my family, like my brothers, literally. so when they hurt, i hurt, and there's a lot of emotion involved. you know, you enjoy the ups and, man, do you feel the downs. >> pelley: but, come on, you've got how many clients now? >> rosenhaus: approximately 170 active clients. >> pelley: you can't have a personal relationship with 170 guys. >> rosenhaus: scott, i do. i want each one of my clients to feel that they are my only client, that they are my most important client, that i love them. >> pelley: a few people watching this might look at you and say, "that poor man." ( laughs ) seriously, no family, no wife. he's 44. he has no life. >> rosenhaus: well, i love the nfl. i've given my life to it.
my girlfriend of two years, we broke up. she said i work too hard. i cared more about my business than i did her. >> pelley: she was right. >> rosenhaus: she was. she was. >> pelley: at least, now, she doesn't have to drive with him. >> rosenhaus: i'll drive, text, and be on the internet at the same time. and... ( phone rings ) ...it's... it's dangerous. >> pelley: now, i assume what you're doing here isn't strictly legal? >> rosenhaus: it's totally illegal, what i'm doing. i always use two phones. this phone is for phone calls and texts. this is for emails, the internet. ( phone rings ) >> pelley: there it is again. >> rosenhaus: hey, i'm... i'm with someone. try me again. bye-bye. >> simon: how many calls in a day? >> rosenhaus: a few hundred. >> pelley: the calls started when he signed his first client while still a student at duke university law school. at age 22, he became the youngest agent ever in the nfl.
how did you know that you wanted to do this work? >> rosenhaus: i had to be maybe eight, nine years old, and i said, "whoa, it would be cool." you know, i think i saw a couple clips of agents on tv and it was like, "man! whoo!" >> pelley: wait a minute, you wanted to be a sports agent at the age of eight? >> rosenhaus: very early on, i was just a real football... i'm going to use the term "geek." when the dolphins won, scott, i was the happiest guy on the planet. i was a huge dolphins fan growing up here in miami. when they lost, i literally was in tears. >> pelley: he was also in tears because he got bullied in school. so his father enrolled 12-year- old rosenhaus-- and his younger brother jason, who's now his business partner-- in a karate school run by a master named young soo do. do transformed rosenhaus. >> rosenhaus: i went from a guy that was a mama's boy, who was soft, who was maybe a bit of a baby to hard-nosed, to tough, to exactly the opposite. he taught me about discipline,
conquering your fears, battling adversity, to push yourself to become the best. young soo do turned me into a man. >> pelley: a man who has now built a family business into the biggest agency in all of football. >> rosenhaus: marcus, say hello to donte stallworth, one of my clients. >> pelley: we were with rosenhaus on the nfl's draft night last year. he was in los angeles with his top draft prospect, cornerback jimmy smith. smith was surrounded by family, friends, and ferocious tension. >> rosenhaus: 30 seconds, hang in there. >> pelley: his financial future was on the line. the earlier he was picked, the more money he would make. but smith was not an easy sell. he'd tested positive for marijuana. so rosenhaus had to take him on a tour to visit coaches to convince them that smith had matured. >> rosenhaus: keep an eye on your phone. >> pelley: on this night, they expected the baltimore ravens to pick smith in the first round.
but when the ravens turn came, they didn't pick anybody. >> this is unusual. they passed. in other words, somebody jumps into your slot. >> rosenhaus: we're working on the trade. >> pelley: look at rosenhaus. if he has doubts, he will never show them. >> rosenhaus: they're going to take you. just stay positive, all right, buddy. >> jimmy smith: uh-huh. >> rosenhaus: look like you're happy. smile, and something good's going to happen. >> what the hell's going on out there? >> rosenhaus: i'm trying to get ahold of the ravens. they're not answering the phone. hang on, guys. >> pelley: after eight agonizing minutes, smith got a call. ( phone rings ) >> rosenhaus: that's going to be us. shh. >> the baltimore ravens select jimmy smith. ( cheers and applause ) >> pelley: he'll make about $8 million over four years. plenty to celebrate. >> and there's drew, the omnipresent drew. ( cheers and applause ) >> pelley: rosenhaus signed 17 clients in last year's draft--
of course, more than any other agent. you know who doesn't like you so much? >> rosenhaus: the other agents. >> pelley: the other agents. >> rosenhaus: that's great. >> pelley: you've been called a "sleaze ball." >> rosenhaus: i have. >> pelley: you've been called a thief. >> rosenhaus: keep it coming, man. i love when agents talk badly about me. >> pelley: the rap on you is that you steal other guy's clients. >> rosenhaus: i've heard it, yeah. and it's so false. >> pelley: but 80% of your clients had other agents first? >> rosenhaus: i think that's right. i think that's correct. >> pelley: other agents have filed almost 50 grievances against rosenhaus with the players' union. his competitors claim that he has stolen the clients that they have under contract. but so far, rosenhaus says he has won every case. >> rosenhaus: it's kill-or-be- killed in this business. and i intend to do the killing. when i was on the cover of "sports illustrated," they said, "the most hated man in pro football." b.s. i wasn't the most hated man. the players like me, i think the owners, the teams like me. the agents don't like me. that still stands today.
and it always will. >> pelley: part of that is resentment of rosenhaus' success. when the nfl lockout ended last summer, rosenhaus says he negotiated more than 90 contracts in just over one month... >> rosenhaus: whew! >> pelley: ...contracts worth about $600 million. rosenhaus' take is $18 million. that's 3%, the maximum that the players' union allows. how do you earn that kind of cash just by talking? well, watch what we saw in a hotel room when rosenhaus called a series of general managers. >> rosenhaus: what you're offering me is a joke. the price is just going to go up. you're blowing it. i'm bringing you a player. you're going to look like a genius. a one-year deal for $5 million is a steal for him. he's worth at least twice that. what do you mean, "he's been hurt a lot"? the concussions are a thing of the past. on top of that, he's got a new helmet. that's not even close. what do you mean, "we're too far apart"? come on, you're killing me here.
you're taking a huge risk by letting me get off the phone, because when i get off the phone, i'm calling another team. yes! good man! >> pelley: if all that looks familiar, well, it should. when tom cruise played super agent jerry maguire, maguire's persona was based largely on rosenhaus. >> tom cruise: he said i don't know what it's like to be a black person! i'm mr. black people. show me the money! >> congratulations, you're still my agent. >> pelley: do you have to keep these guys out of trouble? >> rosenhaus: sometimes, yeah. >> pelley: you put clients in rehab? >> rosenhaus: i have. >> pelley: bailed clients out of jail? >> rosenhaus: of course. i've gone in the middle of the night to do that. i've visited clients in prison. i mean, that's brutal. there's nothing, nothing tougher than that. >> pelley: his most famous prison client is star receiver plaxico burress. burress served more than 20 months for shooting himself in a nightclub with an unlicensed handgun. when burress was released,
rosenhaus was there with his typically understated welcome. >> rosenhaus: ah! >> pelley: good thing he's not a 300-pound lineman. he hit you pretty hard. >> plaxico burress: ( laughs ) i'd have been running the other way. >> pelley: you're in prison. >> burress: right. >> pelley: you shot yourself in the leg. >> burress: right. >> pelley: what kind of things was rosenhaus telling you? >> burress: "stay strong." you know, "stay strong." he was like, you know, "our day to shine is coming again." >> pelley: burress had missed two seasons, but rosenhaus talked the new york jets into a one-year $3 million contract. >> burress: drew's a salesman. i mean, that's what he does. >> pelley: when he called you and said, "i've got a deal with the jets," you thought what? >> burress: championship. championship. >> pelley: one thing is certain- - a rosenhaus client will play in this year's super bowl, because he has clients on every team but atlanta. that's the result of his obsessive, single-minded
discipline he traces back to his tae kwon do training as a boy. whether to impress his clients or his competitors, rosenhaus didn't want us to get away without seeing a concrete example of his force of will. >> rosenhaus: nine bricks. it's the most i've ever done with the fire technique. it's got to be very quick, very explosive, very powerful, very fast. otherwise, i'm going to get burnt very badly. i've broken my hand. i've gotten stitches. you have to hit it, though, as if it's not bricks, as if it's a pillow. you have to hit it with all your heart, with all your might. >> pelley: and consider, that's his texting hand. >> rosenhaus: hi-yah! ah! >> pelley: does that hand still work? >> rosenhaus: yeah. everything's great. i'm perfect. >> pelley: a miami columnist once wrote about you-- his words, not mine: "only a few things will survive a nuclear holocaust..." and they are? >> rosenhaus: cockroaches and drew rosenhaus. ( laughs ) >> pelley: and twinkies. >> rosenhaus: twinkies. ( laughs ) >> pelley: are you more the
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the 24-year-old's sophomore album has sold more than 22 million copies and spent more weeks at number one than any album in nearly 20 years. what makes her success all the more extraordinary is that she's unlike most other contemporary female pop singers. she doesn't have runway model looks, doesn't dress provocatively, and has no gimmicks added to her music. her popularity is due simply to the strength of her voice, and the emotional connection so many people have to her music. at the height of her album's success, vocal cord problems forced her to cancel dozens of concerts and threatened to end her young career. as we first reported in february, adele revealed how her voice is doing now, and how she is handling her sudden and very unconventional rise to fame. >> adele: ( singing "rolling in the deep" )
♪ ♪ ♪ >> cooper: adele's music is intensely personal. she sings almost exclusively about love and the men whose love she's lost. she wrote this song, "rolling in the deep," heartbroken and angry the day after breaking up with her boyfriend. the song became the top-selling single of 2011 and catapulted her to global stardom. >> adele: the kind of level of fame that i'm dealing with now, it's obviously gotten bigger over the year, but it was overnight. literally, on a flight to new york. i landed, and i seemed to be the most talked-about artist in the world that day. >> cooper: what's that moment like? >> adele: i thought it was hilarious. ( laughs ) >> cooper: hilarious? >> adele: i thought it was funny. i wanted to be a singer forever. but it's not really my cup of tea, having the whole world know who you are. >> cooper: it's not your cup of tea? >> adele: no. i find it quite difficult to think that there's, you know, about 20 million people
listening to my album that i wrote very selfishly to get over a breakup. i didn't write it being that it's going to be a hit. >> cooper: you really wrote it to... to help you get over something? >> adele: yeah. so the fact that so many people are interested in that, and want to cry to it or want to feel strong to it or whatever, i find really... it's just little old me. >> cooper: there's nothing little about adele's voice or the emotion her songs convey. last september, standing almost motionless center stage, she had london's royal albert hall mesmerized. >> adele: ♪ set fire to the rain... ♪ ♪ ♪ >> cooper: this performance, which she considers one of the best of her career, was also one of her last. when did you first start to notice a problem in your voice? >> adele: a year ago, my voice went live on air, a radio show in paris, and... >> cooper: when you say it
"went," what do you mean? >> adele: it was literally like someone switched... like a click off in my throat. and it just turned off, like someone pulled a curtain over my throat. but i sounded... i'm not a soprano singer, but say if someone's singing soprano. and then listen to a baritone singer. it sounded like that. my voice went... it was so much deeper. it was... >> cooper: and... and did you know something was happening? i mean, you must have known. >> adele: yeah, yeah. and i could feel it. it felt like something popped in my throat. >> cooper: it turned out she had a polyp in her vocal cords that had also hemorrhaged. >> adele: really, i should... i should've stopped singing for six months, really, and properly rested my voice. but it's kind of impossible to do when you're in the eye of the storm. >> cooper: so you had to have surgery? >> adele: yeah. i had laser surgery, yeah. >> cooper: and what do they actually do? >> adele: put a laser down your throat, cut off the polyp, and kind of laser your hemorrhage back together and fix it. >> cooper: to help her heal, she was also ordered not to speak a word for much of november and december. that's got to be hard. >> adele: yeah. it was really hard. >> cooper: i sense you like to talk. >> adele: yeah, i love talking. ( laughter ) >> cooper: so how'd you communicate for five weeks?
>> adele: by pad. i had a notepad. and i also had an application on my phone, and that you type the words into it and then it speaks it. but the great thing is i love to swear. most of them, you can't swear on, but i found this one app where you can swear. so i'm still really getting my point across. the guy that this next song's about, not enough time has gone by since he was a ( bleep ) ( bleep ) to me. >> cooper: the swearing is back; so, too, the thick cockney accent. and her confidence in her singing voice has never been higher. >> adele: i can't remember a time where it felt so smooth to sing and not be paranoid on stage, you know. >> cooper: what do you mean? >> adele: i used to always wonder, "will i hit that note?" even when i wasn't ill. it's basically a clean slate in my throat. and it's just clear. doesn't mean it would never happen again. if i decide to go on a 200-date world tour, it would happen again. >> cooper: really? >> adele: yeah, it will. you know, just the exhaustion. >> cooper: hardly anyone has heard adele sing since the surgery, so sitting with her in a small london recording studio in january, we just couldn't resist. can you sing a little "someone like you" or...? >> adele: i can do it
a cappella. >> cooper: yeah? sure. >> adele: i'm fine doing that, yeah. ♪ never mind, i'll find someone like you ♪ i wish nothin' but the best for you, too ♪ "don't forget me," i beg "i'll remember," you said ♪ sometimes, it lasts in love but sometimes, it hurts instead ♪ sometimes, it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead >> cooper: "someone like you" has become another adele anthem, written about that same boyfriend who broke her heart. ♪ never mind, i'll find someone like you ♪ i wish nothin' but the best for you, too ♪ "don't forget me," i beg "i'll
remember," you said ♪ sometimes, it lasts in love but sometimes, it hurts instead ♪ sometimes, it lasts in love but sometimes it hurts instead >> cooper: the song is incredibly sad, and her fans cry right along to it, so much so it became a running gag on "saturday night live." >> and... play... ♪ ♪ ( laughter ) >> adele: that's what i was doing when i was writing it. ( laughter ) >> cooper: she can laugh about it now. she says she no longer feels the same way about the song or the guy she once did. >> adele: "someone like you" was about him getting engaged really
quickly after we broke up. and... and i wrote that to feel better about myself, really, and it was about trying to convince myself that, "oh, we will meet someone else and i will be happy." >> cooper: and you have met someone else? >> adele: yeah. who is much better than him. ( laughter ) in fact, next time i sing "someone like you," i'm going to be, like, "never mind, i found someone, like you. please forget me." >> cooper: she found simon konecki, a british entrepreneur who also runs a charitable foundation. so you're in love now? >> adele: yeah. love it. it's great. >> cooper: your face lights up when you talk about it. >> adele: yeah. ( laughter ) >> cooper: do you think you could write without having your heart broken? >> adele: well, i hope so, because i'm madly in love and i don't want to... i don't want to be like, "babe, i'm sorry, we've got to break up. i've got a new album to deliver." ( laughs ) he'd ( bleep ) hate that. also, i can't write another breakup record. that would be a real clicheé. ( laughter ) it would really be... it would be just like a boring, running theme. i think people would be like, "no, that's enough now. cheer up." ( laughter ) you know what i mean? i'm not worried about it. if it gets... if it gets... start to be, like, five, ten
years down the line, i... i will. i'll break up with him. ( laughs ) >> ( singing "hometown glory" ) >> cooper: she was born adele adkins in a working class section of north london. an only child raised by a single mom, she attended a high school for the performing arts and, just three days after graduating, was offered a recording contract. she was 18 years old. >> ( singing "chasing pavements" ) >> cooper: her debut album came out in 2008, and earned her two grammys, including best new artist. >> ( singing "chasing pavements" ) ♪ ♪ >> cooper: despite her success, she was concerned about losing touch with new music, so she did something unusual for a grammy winning artist. she got a part-time job sorting
and labeling cds in the back of a record store. you started working here after your first album? >> adele: yeah, after the grammys. >> cooper: ( laughs ) after you'd done the grammys? >> adele: yeah, yeah, i came and worked here for a little while. no one knows i did it here, no one knows. i just did it for myself. >> cooper: did they think it was odd that you... >> adele: yeah. >> cooper: ...came here to volunteer to work? >> adele: yeah, absolutely. very much so. they were baffled by it. >> cooper: the other baffling thing about adele is that, despite being known for the power of her live concerts, in front of audiences, she experiences near crippling stage fright. so, how does it manifest itself? >> adele: it starts from the minute i wake up. if i know i've got a show, it starts... i mean, i just try and putter around and keep myself busy and stuff like that. and then i got to go down and sit in the chair for a couple hours, have my hair and makeup done. but it has gotten worse as i'm becoming more successful, my nerves, just because there's a bit more pressure and people are expecting a lot more from me. >> cooper: so what's that fear? >> adele: that i'm not going to deliver. i'm not going to deliver. that i'm not going to... people aren't going to enjoy it. they're... they're going to...
that i'll ruin their love for my songs by doing them live. i feel sick. i get a bit panicky. >> cooper: have you ever thrown up? >> adele: yeah. oh, yeah. yeah. a few times. >> cooper: really? >> adele: yeah. projectile. yeah. because it just comes... it just comes out. it does. >> cooper: that kind of candid talk is typical adele. she is naturally generous with the details of her life. but her success is changing that. fed up with paparazzi staking out her home in london, she rented this very large but very private home in the english countryside. >> adele: this here, this is just safety, this house. come on, louie. >> cooper: that's why you're out here? just because... for privacy? >> adele: yeah. >> cooper: she's learned about fame the hard way. in the past, too many personal details of her life ended up in the tabloid press.
so she set traps to catch the sources. >> adele: i plant stories and see who leaks them, and then i get rid of them, yeah. >> cooper: really? so you would... you would tell them something that... >> adele: i'd tell, like, a group of people who i was suspicious of... ( laughs ) i'd tell them all a different story with different details in it, but all roughly the same story, so i could keep my eye on it. and then, when i knew it would come out, yeah, i knew who it was. >> cooper: that's kind of depressing. >> adele: yeah, it was still... it's quite fun, as well. ( laughter ) not firing people that you love, but yeah, it's necessary. >> cooper: inside the rented mansion, there are ten bedrooms-- nine more than she needs-- and almost no furniture. >> adele: this is... this house is a bit of a clicheé, really. this bit's all quite scary, really. it was a convent for a little while. >> cooper: ever seen "the shining"? >> adele: "all work and no play." and then, this is the pool. >> cooper: wow. >> adele: do you have a pool? >> cooper: uh... no. >> adele: so these wings... ( laughs ) these wings that way and that way is empty, really. there a couple of spare bedrooms around there, and this is my suite. >> cooper: i love what you've done with the place. >> adele: i've been busy. >> cooper: she's about to get a lot busier. now that her voice has healed, demand for her to tour has never been higher. did you ever feel pressure to, "well, i got to look a certain way, i have to... >> adele: no, never.
i've never seen magazine covers and seen music videos and been, like, "i need to look like that if i want to be a success." never. i don't want to be some skinny mini with my ( bleep ) out. i really don't want to do it. ( laughs ) and i don't want people confusing what it is that i'm about. ( singing "rumor has it" ) ♪ ♪ ♪ i'm not shocking. i just stand there and sing. and i don't do stunts or anything. >> cooper: but i think that's one of the... the things that is so remarkable about your success is that you're kind of the anti-pop star. i mean, you're not... >> adele: no, i am. >> cooper: you know what i mean. i mean, there... there aren't any gimmicks. it's basically the power of... of your voice and... and what you're singing. >> adele: if i wanted to do all that, i don't think i'd get away with it. i just... i don't think people would believe me. >> cooper: but in your songs, i think people believe that you have experienced what you're singing about. i think that comes through. >> adele: i'm just writing love
songs. i'm not trying to be pop. i'm not trying to be jazz. i'm not trying to be anything. i'm just writing love songs. and everyone loves a love song. ( singing "rolling in the deep" ) ♪ ♪ ♪ ( cheers and applause ) >> go to 60minutesovertime.com to get a behind-the-scenes look at some of the funniest moments we had with adele. y different park service units across the united states. the only time i've ever had a break is when i was on maternity leave. i have retired from doing this one thing that i loved. now, i'm going to be able to have the time
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